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“Whaaaat? Is he kidding? The jihadists must have been deliriously happy over it. Ron Paul is saying that 9/11 IS OUR FAULT. There’s more…”
Why is that so hard to believe? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am well-read on history. Perhaps you should check out some historical sources on the matter and you’ll find the USA is just as bad as anyone else, democracy or no democracy (it is essentially irrelevant). US has had its hand in the pie with overthrowing democratic governments and then SUPPORTING WITH FUNDS the dictatorships across the Middle-East. Perhaps they are angry with the USA because it has directly led to the oppression and misery that they experienced for decades during the Cold War, rather than the hope of having democratic government and liberty (in whatever way liberty is interpreted by their culture). Can you blame them for hating America and despising its role in the region then?. Targeting the WTC, the Pentagon and almost the White House symbolise an attack on its economic, its military and its political structures respectively, and that shows enough their resolve. It really has nothing to do with religion; religion is used as a means to an end in all this. I believe the USA can still be a great role model, but it really has to stop its concentration on Islamic fundamentalism (albeit it must still keep a sharp eye) and rather concentrate on the underlying conditions as to why these people want to kill Americans. I am very sorry to all those who lost loved ones in the Sept 11 attacks and I hope the world can make amends after such a tragedy. The time is NOW to get a proper resolve on this.
“He is AGAINST foreign aid…”
While I myself am rather neutral on this (and let me be clear, I am NOT a libertarian), I can see where he is coming from. US aid usually comes in the form of food shipments which means farmers don’t get shit for their crop and society ends up being dependent on food imports. I am not against aid per se, but I am against it in its current form.
“He is AGAINST abortion” “He is AGAINST gay marriage and adoption”
These are personal religious views held by the Dr as I recall, not political ones. He supports the states’ rights to allow or restrict them. He even thinks prostitution should be allowed if the states believe it in their interest.
“He would not be a staunch defender of Israel, which is our best ally on the planet, and openly paints the Palestinians as victims instead of the terrorists they are.”
With that I will stop trying to justify his positions. You clearly have NO concept of balanced historical knowledge, so until you have gone and read up and balance what the FOX network tells you and what is written and kept under wraps, there’s no hope you could understand Dr Paul’s position. He is a wise man. I don’t agree with everything he is supporting (I certainly am not a fan of the ultra-ultra-free-market-with-no-checks-and-balances ideal, or the elimination of welfare), I am an atheist and not a supporter of such religious opinions, and I wouldn’t vote for him (in fact I am not even an American), but I can spot a man who follows all the issues, both domestic and foreign, and decides what is best/moral based on all the available facts and points of view. It should be well known that all the mainstream news broadcasted either here or elsewhere in the West is even remotely credible (and to demonstrate that, your average history teacher and lecturer will mark you down for using news stories as ‘credible sources’ for an assignment! I was a victim many times). My suggestion is subscribing to the alternative media channels and then read them in addition to normal news; the differences are quite amazing. In addition, if you can, get someone with a Uni logon to allow you to browse politics and international relations databases. These are invaluable sources of peer-reviewed, rebutted and debated information.
I hope I haven’t been too rude and that my pretention regarding sound historical knowledge is not too off-putting!
“You clearly have NO concept of balanced historical knowledge, so until you have gone and read up…”, “I hope I haven’t been too rude”.
Just about rude enough, actually.
I gave a well-researched essay on Ron Paul, loaded with facts and references. What did you offer for a response? Nothing except your one-sided opinion. You start off with an attack on the USA and rant on about how awful we are and offer nothing except that I should educate myself, no doubt to rise to your lofty level of expertise.
Then you claim that all the Islamic acts of terrorism have nothing to do with religion. Tell me, you brilliant student of history, are you aware of the ultimate goal of Islam to conquer the world? No? Do the words “gates of Vienna” mean anything to you?
Opinions are like assholes and everybody has one. In your case I’d say you have at least two.
Lachy is a liar. He’s a Muslim, not an atheist. He says that to lend credence to his propaganda. Blaming the United States for all the worlds woes. Exempting the terrorists, justifying their acts of murder, and of course, attacking the messenger, myself, to discredit me. His IP address is Queensland, Australia, home to entirely too many Muslims.
Of all the many comments left on this blog by Muslims, not a single one of them has ever been able to speak honestly and factually and without any attempt at deception, and every one has launched a personal attack on me. They all think alike.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
“Whaaaat? Is he kidding? The jihadists must have been deliriously happy over it. Ron Paul is saying that 9/11 IS OUR FAULT. There’s more…”
Why is that so hard to believe? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am well-read on history. Perhaps you should check out some historical sources on the matter and you’ll find the USA is just as bad as anyone else, democracy or no democracy (it is essentially irrelevant). US has had its hand in the pie with overthrowing democratic governments and then SUPPORTING WITH FUNDS the dictatorships across the Middle-East. Perhaps they are angry with the USA because it has directly led to the oppression and misery that they experienced for decades during the Cold War, rather than the hope of having democratic government and liberty (in whatever way liberty is interpreted by their culture). Can you blame them for hating America and despising its role in the region then?. Targeting the WTC, the Pentagon and almost the White House symbolise an attack on its economic, its military and its political structures respectively, and that shows enough their resolve. It really has nothing to do with religion; religion is used as a means to an end in all this. I believe the USA can still be a great role model, but it really has to stop its concentration on Islamic fundamentalism (albeit it must still keep a sharp eye) and rather concentrate on the underlying conditions as to why these people want to kill Americans. I am very sorry to all those who lost loved ones in the Sept 11 attacks and I hope the world can make amends after such a tragedy. The time is NOW to get a proper resolve on this.
“He is AGAINST foreign aid…”
While I myself am rather neutral on this (and let me be clear, I am NOT a libertarian), I can see where he is coming from. US aid usually comes in the form of food shipments which means farmers don’t get shit for their crop and society ends up being dependent on food imports. I am not against aid per se, but I am against it in its current form.
“He is AGAINST abortion” “He is AGAINST gay marriage and adoption”
These are personal religious views held by the Dr as I recall, not political ones. He supports the states’ rights to allow or restrict them. He even thinks prostitution should be allowed if the states believe it in their interest.
“He would not be a staunch defender of Israel, which is our best ally on the planet, and openly paints the Palestinians as victims instead of the terrorists they are.”
With that I will stop trying to justify his positions. You clearly have NO concept of balanced historical knowledge, so until you have gone and read up and balance what the FOX network tells you and what is written and kept under wraps, there’s no hope you could understand Dr Paul’s position. He is a wise man. I don’t agree with everything he is supporting (I certainly am not a fan of the ultra-ultra-free-market-with-no-checks-and-balances ideal, or the elimination of welfare), I am an atheist and not a supporter of such religious opinions, and I wouldn’t vote for him (in fact I am not even an American), but I can spot a man who follows all the issues, both domestic and foreign, and decides what is best/moral based on all the available facts and points of view. It should be well known that all the mainstream news broadcasted either here or elsewhere in the West is even remotely credible (and to demonstrate that, your average history teacher and lecturer will mark you down for using news stories as ‘credible sources’ for an assignment! I was a victim many times). My suggestion is subscribing to the alternative media channels and then read them in addition to normal news; the differences are quite amazing. In addition, if you can, get someone with a Uni logon to allow you to browse politics and international relations databases. These are invaluable sources of peer-reviewed, rebutted and debated information.
I hope I haven’t been too rude and that my pretention regarding sound historical knowledge is not too off-putting!
Regards, Lachy.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:03 am
“You clearly have NO concept of balanced historical knowledge, so until you have gone and read up…”, “I hope I haven’t been too rude”.
Just about rude enough, actually.
I gave a well-researched essay on Ron Paul, loaded with facts and references. What did you offer for a response? Nothing except your one-sided opinion. You start off with an attack on the USA and rant on about how awful we are and offer nothing except that I should educate myself, no doubt to rise to your lofty level of expertise.
Then you claim that all the Islamic acts of terrorism have nothing to do with religion. Tell me, you brilliant student of history, are you aware of the ultimate goal of Islam to conquer the world? No? Do the words “gates of Vienna” mean anything to you?
Opinions are like assholes and everybody has one. In your case I’d say you have at least two.
Lachy is a liar. He’s a Muslim, not an atheist. He says that to lend credence to his propaganda. Blaming the United States for all the worlds woes. Exempting the terrorists, justifying their acts of murder, and of course, attacking the messenger, myself, to discredit me. His IP address is Queensland, Australia, home to entirely too many Muslims.
Of all the many comments left on this blog by Muslims, not a single one of them has ever been able to speak honestly and factually and without any attempt at deception, and every one has launched a personal attack on me. They all think alike.
March 1st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
What the hell makes Israel our best ally is what I’m wondering? Seriously, what do they do for us?
We waste billions upon billions of dollars defending Israel, and what are we getting in return?