Barack Obama: Closet Muslim? Looks That Way.
Some of you may have heard about an email sent out by a Clinton staffer (the staffer was fired over it) that said that Obama is a secret muslim. A second staffer has now left the fold for the same reason. The email was predicated partly on an article in Insight Magazine.
This followup article from Insight Magazine says that “Insight never claimed—not once—that Obama had attended an Indonesian Madrassa as a young boy. What we did claim—and stand behind 100 percent—is that the Hillary Clinton camp had conducted an investigation into Obama’s Muslim background, and they had concluded he had been raised and educated as a Muslim. In fact, our sources close to the Hillary camp confirmed that the investigators were planning to leak this information to their media allies later this fall—just before the ‘08 primary campaign. Moreover, our sources also confirmed that the Hillary camp was going to make the issue not so much Obama’s Muslim background, but the fact that he had concealed or downplayed it. According to the strategy of the Clinton camp, Obama’s alleged concealment and deception was to be the issue—not so much his Muslim heritage.”
Last week I was hearing rumors about an “Obama bombshell” that the Clinton campaign was going to drop at the appropriate time, and no doubt this was it. I can hardly blame Hillary for dumping the staffers who let this out of the bag, nor do I doubt the truth of the Insight article.
Obama was a member of the Black Law Students Assn. in college, he was a community organizer in Harlem, currently works as a civil rights attorney, his election staff is primarily black and of all the Hollywood types who might him, it’s black Oprah, who apparently is far more concerned about the next presidents race than his or her qualifications.
Whether or not Obama is a secret Islamist, it’s clear that he’s a black racist who will promote blacks to the detriment of every other race. Beyond that, his voting record is far left Liberal. This guy would be a disaster as a President and I personally think the disaster we have now is more than enough for this century.
The fact that he was initially raised as a muslim cannot be ignored. The first eight years of his life were as a muslim. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his black muslim father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro — a Muslim — moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. He then attended a muslim school for two years until age 8, then 2 years of Catholic school.
Even if he now espouses Christianity as he claims, his formative years were as a muslim and he feels a kinship with Islam. He has to. Certainly his unending litany of lies during his campaign shows an Islamic upbringing in deception.
His mentor over many years was Rev. Jeremiah Wright. A black preacher known for fiery sermons against American racism, poverty, and imperialism, Wright was Obama’s avowed spiritual mentor – his personal agent of religious conversion on the South Side of Chicago in the middle 1980s. Obama would have been about 15 or 16. Christianized by a radical. Great.
This man can’t be trusted. We just can’t take the chance. A muslim as our President would be the end of our nation as a free country. We need the muslims OUT, not more in.
A good example of why is Congressman Gregory Meeks, a black muslim who actively supports Islamic terrorist organizations and spends his time and our money in his efforts to insert these people and their agendas into the House of Congress. This particular information was brought to my attention in an email from Act For America.
December 11th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
I find it neither surprising nor disturbing that Obama would brush over his Islamic heritage considering the type of fearful reaction that you exemplified above when insisting that “it’s clear that he’s a black racist who will promote blacks to the detriment of every other race”.
In the future, candidates will no longer attempt to hold any information back, as the digital age is revealing that “operatives searching for that one embarrassing moment or fabricated truth doggedly chase… as far back in time as candidates’ kindergarten essays.”* and perhaps Obama learned this lesson in preemptively revealing his past drug use
*http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-schuler/08-gotchas-what-comes-a_b_76144.html
December 11th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Elisa, are you disagreeing over whether or not he’s a black racist considering all that he does and has done? Do you seriously think that a racist of any kind as our president wouldn’t be harmful to America? I don’t want a white racist in there either. We’ve had enough of that KKK crap, we don’t need more.
Muslims are notoriously racist because Islam is racist. Black radical white-hating preachers are racist and that was what Obama had as a teacher.
I do find it very disturbing that Obama has repeatedly lied and covered up his Islamic background. We have a liar for a president now. Are you sure you want another one? Would a black liar be better than a white liar?
“Fearful reaction” is dead on. The very idea of a muslim as our president is scarey as Hell.
BTW, re your reference to the Huffington Post, that’s the nastiest Left-Wing website out there short of Al Jazeera.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:01 am
No idea on US politics really, but would question if one is always shaped by upbringing. On that basis I should be a devout Christian.
December 12th, 2007 at 10:38 am
Or very resentful of too strict a religious childhood.
Of course we are always shaped by our upbringing. Always. That doesn’t mean that we always adhere to the religion we were taught but it does mean that we carry the basic attitudes and emotional set that we were instilled with in childhood into adult life.
It’s a fact, and you can look it up and verify it, that the emotional reactions we have learned by age 5 are the same reactions we have as adults. This is why this is important and it has nothing to do with politics.
December 12th, 2007 at 11:55 am
I really don’t know the statistics of it Rasta, but common observation would suggest that you are at least 90%+ right. Most people are the products of their upbringing, most raised in Islamic countries believe in Islam, most brought up in Christian countries believe in Christianity and so on.
All I do query is that is there is something inevitable about the idea, it is NOT 100% certain that Obama thingy has Muslim sympathies simply because he spent a period (if he did) in a Madrassa. Many rebel against what we were taught, and many of us (like me) simply do not have the nature to believe it. I was an atheist from a very early age, I simply had no ability to believe in what I could not observe to be true. All the crappy Catholism bounced off me and as soon as I felt able to stand up to my father (he was a very little bloke) I was out of there.
Obama? I really have no idea, I would be inclined to judge the man on what he said and did rather than on ideas about a disputed history. Is he too much a black issues man rather than a president for all US citizens? That would be my main worry I think.
As an outsider, if there are any where the US is concerned, I can only think, could he possibly be worse for the rest of the world than Bush?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Would you want to take a chance on having a muslim run your country? Would you be willing to chance that someone with early Islamic upbringing is even telling you the truth that he’s not a muslim, when muslims are taught to lie and this man is a proven liar, lying repeatedly about his muslim past?
Maybe you would, Xoggoth, but I sure as Hell wouldn’t. This is the PRESIDENCY we’re talking about. You would take a CHANCE on your PRESIDENT?
Not me, buddy. It’s hard enough getting someone decent into that job without choosing a person with known major issues. You go ahead and judge him any way you like, you’re not voting here. And Xog, you’re too liberal. In fact, you sound very much like the average Brit. I don’t mean that to be offensive, but I do mean to point out that being too liberal is why the UK is now overrun with low-life immigrant scum types who are bleeding the place dry on welfare and shoving Islam down your throats.
You simply CANNOT give the benefit of the doubt to people. It’s up to each of us to prove ourselves, and not forgive the trespasses of others. Decent people behave decently. The rest get deported or go to prison. That’s how it has to be unless we enjoy being perennial victims like the British people are now.
December 12th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Excellent Rasta, I do like an argument.
You are quite right, it is not my choice, although given the (for now) power of the US, it is a choice YOU make that the rest of the world has to live with.
It has nothing to do with being liberal, but with being rational and the truly rational man always makes a decision based on the best information he has. In the absence of information about an individual, he uses statistics. Would anyone with any sense buy a car that the surveys show to be unreliable? Of course not. In the same way no sane US voter should vote for a candidate who sympathises with Islam, since there is nothing about Islam that squares with democracy or individual freedom.
But is Obama a closet Muslim? There is presumably a great deal more in the public domain about him than allegations of attendance at a Madrassa. For heavens sake, judge the bloke on ALL you know of him, not just on speciific things in his past that loom large in your eyes.
You are quite right about what has happened to the UK and it is due to unrealistic liberalism, the daft idea that the backwardness, corruption and violence of third world societies has nothing to do with the people that live in them. That has nothing to do with the migration policy I would favour, if we had proper checks on individuals, on their usefulness, commitment to UK values and lack of criminality, then origins really should not matter.
I would never give the benefit of the doubt to anyone, I would prefer to judge on what they were. The man must be a liar because he was brought up a Muslim and taught to lie? So now he is pretending not to be a Muslim in order to get elected so he can bring Shariah to the US? Are you serious? It is possible I suppose but my brain is crying BOLLOX. At times I think your dislike of Islam overwhelms your sense.
December 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
You’re misreading. Or not reading. One of the two.
I didn’t say he was a liar because he was brought up a muslim. Get back to the “great deal more in the public domain about him” that concerns you. He has a history of lying about his muslim upbringing, of obfuscation. I’m not saying he might be a liar. I’m saying he’s a proven one.
He has an Islamic past, which he has repeatedly lied about. What is there to argue about?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
I THINK YOUR RIGHT BUD, HE,S A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. PLUS THE FACT THAT OOOOPRAH IS BACKING HIM. THAT ALONE SHOULD SET OFF ALARM BELLS.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
I think all of you are straight-up batshit crazy. I don’t even know where to begin with how ridiculous you all sound.
Here’s a link. Educate yourselves.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
December 12th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Do you have a point to make other than calling those with differing opinions “batshit crazy”?
The article you link to supposedly debunks some story that Obama is a muslim. I never said he was, if you’d bothered to read the post. I said that having a muslim background disqualifies him to be president of the United States.
Considering the nature of Islam, we simply can’t take the chance. But hey, you go ahead and vote for him and if he turns out to be what I fear, I hope your face is the closest one to the fan.