Muddy Water Clears Through Stillness
Debbie at Right Truth has once again inspired an editorial here, with her latest post on the Mid-East.
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I could run out of breath repeating that this is not a war on terror and never has been, it’s a battle for Iraqs oil and only that.
It’s nearly impossible to follow Mid-East politics if you pay too much attention to their talks, parlays, resultant statements, new agreements, treaties, pacts and so forth. Every bit of what they do is always a smoke screen for some different agenda that always has to do with personal gain in some form and never has to do with improving the condition of the people, such as Iran giving Iraq PM Al Maliki an Airbus 300 jetliner to use, for a deal he made with them.
Here’s what’s going on. As far as the Bush administration is concerned, Iran and Iraqs “leaders” like Maliki can do what they want. Of course, they make deals between them because they’re all Shiites.
The “insurgents” who are now being called “Al Qaeda” by Bush are Saudi Sunnis entering the country. The purpose is to prevent us from taking Iraq and getting the oil that the Saudi Royal Family doesn’t want us to have. If we lose in Iraq they WILL NOT come here, that’s a lie. They are not Al Qaeda, that’s another lie. He calls them that because they’re Saudis. Osamas’ Al Qaeda is still trying to take over Afghanistan and Pakistan. Saudi Wahhabist religious maniacs want all us infidels out of the Middle East, so the House of Saud encourages and finances them to send their nutjobs into Iraq. This makes both sides happy.
We’re fighting Saudi Arabia by proxy in Iraq, for the oil.
So if we can get the Shiite Iranians to help stop the Sunni Saudis, whom they hate anyway, then why not make deals with Iran? We don’t give a crap about their nukes or hostages or anything except the oil and the Iranians have a lot of oil too.
In the meantime, arming the local Iraqi Sunnis, (remember them? They’re the actual insurgents) to help fight the Shiites puts pressure on Iran to make the deals we’re after.
See? Don’t look at what they say and be unconcerned with all the Iraqi political infighting. Care less whether they form a democracy or not. It’s us against the Sunnis for the oil. That’s all. The Saudi Sunnis are nearing 50% of the enemy combatants in Iraq and head up the Sunni insurgency which resulted from the overthrow of Saddams Sunni minority Baath Party, which held absolute power in Iraq.
The difficulty in sorting things out comes not just from all their talks and all the conflicting news reports. Primarily it comes from the lies being told us by the White House as well as the fact that there are so many separate Mid-East forces. In Saudi Arabia, the Wahhabist clergy are at odds with the royal family for control of the country, so you often see Saudis working both sides of the fence.
Likewise in Iran and Iraq. There’s a multiplicity of tribal, political and/or religious power bases backed by militias and all these people are constantly killing each other, making deals, backstabbing each other and changing alignments, plus they all lie through their teeth.
So just look at the oil. That’s all any of them want and it’s all we want. It’s why we’re there. Threatening Iran with attack is just one more way of convincing them to make a deal. Gunboat diplomacy is Americas’ forte. We learned it from the British. It worked for them and it still works for us.
All the MSM blah-blah about that talk and this deal is just muddying the water and means nothing. Simply look at it that everyone is fighting over the oil and it all comes clear.
July 26th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
You’re right, Rasta.
The US has gone with the Saudi plan.
French navy pilots land on USS Enterprise in MED.
Sarkozzzeee and french foreign minister to negotiate with Hezb, Ham-ass, Fatah, Israel. (Whatever happened to proposed EU foreign minister?)
US to handle Iran.
Like I said a few days ago, Israel will be sacrificed, bit by bit. Peace for land my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lying, conniving bastards.
Israel has no oil. That’s the bottom line.
Never mind VOIP, H264 and onwards developments (thats data compression standards for mp3 audio and visual), fire-walls, VPN, cancer treatments, sub-atomic particle research, missile technology, and oh so much more. Sacrificing one of the most productive, innovative cultures on this planet, and all for oil, and a stone age death cult.
What exactly do these Saudi bastards hold over Dubya’s head?
Oil?
Expand nuclear, wind, solar, everything, godammit. Get rid of the sand fleas. Send them back to the middle-ages economic wasteland that they love.
July 26th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1185379007592&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Does dubya seriously think that once the fleas have the west bank, they will cease their demands?
Did the withdrawal from Lebanon bring peace?
Did the withdrawal from Gazoo bring peace?
No, they were interpreted as weakness, causing the fleas to attack more and demand more
What both the Israelis and the US need right now, are leaders with balls. - not a freaking marionette dancing to Saudi rhythms.
Islamic claims to Jerusalem are bullshit. Israeli and proto-semitic claims predate by thousands of years.
The Temple was built to designs that in turn predated the temple by thousands of years!
Gawd, folks never learn.
July 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
I heard today that Sarkozy thinks it’s fine for any country to have a nuclear program. Not exactly what we expected to hear from him.
Also, on the oil, the agreements that the oil companies actually in control of the oil fields in Iraq is … 80% goes to them, 20% goes to the Iraqis. They still do not have an ‘oil revenue sharing bill’. I have said all along I never expected this to pass. If it did, they would only be dividing up 20% of the profits.
July 27th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
An excellent read, by an excellent writer.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2266
He also has a few words about Sarkozy, and his moves.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/07/france-to-give-nuclear-technology-to.html
July 27th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Debbie, while I am not party to the actual oil contracts, it is normal in the oil extraction industry for the oil companies to take a large proportion of the revenues in the early years in order to defray initial start-up capital expenses(which are considerable) for further exploration, and for the “state” to take a gradually increasing share of the revenues, once these expenses have been defrayed, later in the project.
Each contract varies in detail, but not by overmuch.
I can’t comment on the regional sharing of the “states share” in Iraq.
July 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
USING TERRORISTS TO ESTABLISH WORLD GOVERNMENT, fact or conspiracy?…
Bush has now set up a world government economic block on the plains of Shinar in Iraq with the construction and establishment of the Middle East Free Trade Association (MEFTA) headquarters built in Iraq at a cost of $592 million…
July 27th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Now all we need to do is connect this to the number 666………
July 27th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
From LGF.
While Sarkozy made silly statements, it is also obvious that Lybia managed to nest itself among the “friendly arab states” group by surrendering Saddams chemical and biological weapons. in 2003and 2004.
That coziness is a western making with complicity from the USA, UK and all others involved. Libya was rewarded for making nice statements and “surrendering” its WMD program which was later traced back to Saddam who had them dispersed before the invasion.
Kaddafi betrayed his Arab brother and acted out of simple self interest.
He will betray anybody for survival. This comforts western leaders in the hope that whenever push comes to shove, Gaddafi will choose sides as long as it serves his interest.
He has been behaving relatively nicely since Reagan dropped a 500 pounder in his bedroom and realized where the line is when provoking great powers for personal bluster.
There are reactors which can never produce nuclear fuel for bombs. They exists and those were the ones France originally sold to Iraq under Saddam while Chirac was minister of trade.
Later Iraq ordered over 100 Mirage fighter jets, state of the art and being the large order it was, requiring additional factories to be built for their assembly.
Once the order was in and the fanfare of “new jobs” and great exports was credited to Chirac and his negotiating skills, Saddam demanded a new reactor, one that could enrich weapons grade fuel.
France refused as did the Soviet Union before them, being the original reason for Saddam going French in the first place.
Once Saddam realized that France would not export the “good reactor” technology, he went back to Chirac and threatened to cancel the Mirage orders which were already under assembly. This blackmail forced France to sell the reactor. Though it is known that France also provided intel to Israel in the wake of this problem and Israel acted in 1982 in Dimona.
Of course there were about 18 or so Mirages delivered to Iraq on a test trial basis before completion of the deal and those units were kept by Iraq even they were never paid for. This forced France in 1991 to join the coalition action with helicopters on their carrier as the Mirages were already in Iraq.
I hope the French learned from this lesson as Gaddafi is no more than a pirate and thug of the first order even if he made conciliatory statements fearing action after the quick collapse of Saddam. He isn’t however a suicidal fanatic like the Iranians or an expansionist like the Baathist in Iraq were.
The ransom paid for those medics and doctors were more about the money Libya had to pay for the Lockerby Pan Am attack, which according to many sources was an Iranian act though at the time Iran enjoyed protection from some high places as the investigation focused solely on Libya.
July 28th, 2007 at 9:36 am
Israel has been making and exporting desalination plants for decades, thatdo not require nuclear power.
Are we therefor now waiting for a large military order by Libya from the frogs gov’t?
Libya, similar to Iran, is awash with gas and oil. International oil companies are racing to complete deals with these sand fleas.
As with Saddam in the past, the frogs are leading the charge to empower these libyan sand fleas with an energy source they are not equipped to handle, and whatever the protocols they sign, an energy source that will be diverted to other uses as in Iran, and used against the West.
French delusions of long-gone influence in the North Africa and Mahgreb will once again screw up the area.
Time will tell!
July 28th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
We’re fighting Saudi Arabia by proxy in Iraq, for the oil.
Not really, Rastaman.
If this guy is to be believed, we are working rapidly towards the destruction of the West.
Take your pick from his list.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/PatrickA.htm
The same sorta thing is happening across the water, and explains many white-washes and cover-ups.
July 28th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Shucks, now my earlier post is being moderated, but 3 hours ago it had gone to post heaven.
There must be a troll under my desk. (smile)
July 28th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Earlier ramblings.
” President Valéry Giscard d’Estaing had invited the Shah of Iran as his first official foreign guest, in view of France’s interest in Iranian oil. In 1978, Giscard and his Interior Minister Michel Poniatowski foresaw the collapse of the Shah’s government, which would damage France’s commercial interests.
The proposal was then raised to bring the Ayatollah Khomeini to Algeria. Before, he had been chased from one place to the other. The DST, the French secret service, opposed his entry but Giscard overruled them and granted Khomeini political asylum in France. He stayed in Neauphle le Chateau near Paris. From there, he distributed cassettes to Iran inciting against democracy, peace in the Middle East, the Jews and Israelis. He also called for jihad, a violent holy war. The PLO distributed Khomeini’s cassettes to Iran. When the American embassy in Teheran was attacked in November 1979, PLO members were among the perpetrators. Yasser Arafat was the first official guest in Teheran. He received a popular welcome as a great hero for supporting the Islamic revolution.
Today, we know that Khomeini’s concepts of the Islamic Republic have led to a major expansion of militant Islam. Both Hizbollah and Al Qaeda have their origins in the revolutionary ideas developed in Khomeini’s Iran. The violent speeches in the Iranian mosques and international Islamist terror would not have developed without Khomeini’s stay in France and the publicity he received there. Without Giscard’s hospitality, Khomeini would not have been able to take power in Iran and develop an infrastructure for international propaganda and terrorism.
David Pryce-Jones’s book Betrayal: France, the Arabs, and the Jews:
French foreign policy has repeatedly arrived at nearly equally perverse results in the Middle East. When Saddam Hussein banished Ayatollah Khomeini from Iraq in 1978, France welcomed the turbaned zealot. In France, the ayatollah discovered limitless freedom to agitate: As he himself later said, “We could publicize our views extensively, much more than we expected.” A study by Amir Taheri shows that the ayatollah gave 132 radio, television, and print interviews over the four months of his stay in France. He received almost 100,000 visitors, who donated over 20 million British pounds to his cause. In February 1979, the ayatollah returned to Iran in a chartered Air France jet; an Air France pilot held his elbow as he descended the steps to the tarmac.
And other writers:-
In 1978, as protests against Shah Pahlavi swept across Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini was living in a cozy house in the Parisian suburb of Neauphle-le-Chateau, engineering an Islamic revolution that would soon shake the world. Under the watchful eye of the French government, Khomeini met regularly with journalists and actively campaigned for the shah’s overthrow. In fact, when Pahlavi finally fled his country in 1979, Khomeini was provided with a chartered Air France flight to Tehran, where he presided over one of the world’s most repressive regimes until his death in 1989.
Former French President Valéry Giscard d’Estaing is still around. He has not been called to account. Today he is the chief architect behind the awful EU Constitution.
France never seems to learn, and such is the same for all nations.
This was an object lesson that idiotic sarkozzzzeee failed to learn.
When frogs raise their hand, it should be amputated.