A Shameful Attack From Ireland.
UPDATE: I’ve taken a little flak for a few things that I see I stated poorly and deserved to get flak for. First is my remark about “a rare display of British honesty”. That was poorly said. I have a negative attitude toward the honesty of the British MSM, right or wrong, and that was where I was coming from. Sorry if I gave offense. None was intended unless you count the MSM, of course.
I’m getting dissenting views on the racism or lack of it in the BNP. I believe there is still racism in the BNP that they would be better off without, but I support them regardless.
My interest in England is not that they stand between the USA and the muslim onslaught. My interest in England is because half my family is British. All of them are or were anti-semitic, which gives me perhaps a skewed view of anti-semitism in England today.
Here you go. A “friendly note” from someone in Ireland attacking me in exactly the same way the muslims attacked the cartoonists, to stop Freedom of Speech. This dhimmi-type even went so far as to email Cox & Forkum (I know because they told me about it) telling them that I link to a Hate Site, namely the BNP. Read all about it. I’m going to leave this post up for awhile so everyone can get a good look at it and perhaps contact this Mark Humphrys and share their feelings with him.
In the meantime, who knows, he might even email YOU to tell you how to run YOUR blog. There’s no way in hell this guy is going to pressure me to back off from the way I run mine and the BNP link STAYS.
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From: Mark Humphrys Ireland
email: humphrys@computing.dcu.ie
To: westerner@islamanazi.com
Subject: Re: You link to a Jew-hating site
Quoting Mark Humphrys
Hi
I agree with some of your site
http://www.islamanazi.com/
but you link to the BNP (British National Party).
These are neo-Nazis – an extreme anti-semitic, Jew-hating,
Israel-hating organisation.
but you’ve been misled – they’re only against Islamism because they
hate all Muslims and all Jews
(and all gays, and other groups).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party#Anti-Semitism_and_Holocaust_denial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party#Fascism_and_the_BNP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Griffin#Anti-Semitism_and_holocaust_denial This may be why some pro-Israel sites are dropping links to
islamanazi.com
In fact, I was about to write to Cox and Forkum to point out they link
to a BNP-supporting site
when I thought I’d write direct to you since it occurred to me that it
might be an innocent error on your part
and you may be horrified to find out what the BNP are really like.
You should remove the link and note the error
if you want pro-Israel people like me to take your site seriously.
Regards
Mark Humphrys
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westerner@islamanazi.com wrote:
Hi
Thanks for your concern. Anyone reading my blog can clearly see
that I’m Pro-Israel. I’m well aware that some of the BNP
leadership has come out against Jews, blacks, anyone except
whites. At the same time, others are seeking to moderate the
party’s stance toward non-whites. This is because they want the
BNP to start being taken seriously instead of being viewed as a
bunch of racist skinheads.
The BNP is stoutly against Islam and multiculturalism, which are
out to take over and destroy Western civilization in Europe. This
is a direct threat to my country, the United States.
The BNP is literally the only group standing up for Great Britain.
With all their faults, there is nothing better, so until something
better comes along, it’s a case of the enemy of my enemy being my
friend. There is no other choice.
I know the Brits tout Disraeli, that past Prime Minister, as proof
that they aren’t anti-semitic, but we all know otherwise. Britain
has always been anti-semitic. If you got rid of the BNP, do you
think that would make things better? I can tell you it wouldn’t.
The BNP’s anti-semitism is simply a rare display of British honesty.
My interest in Europe is that they do not succumb to Islamism. The
anti-semitism will have to wait. Frankly, right now, it’s of much
lesser importance.
I appreciate your writing and I hope now you see my point of view
in this matter. Saving Europe comes first.
Best regards,
Rastaman
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Quoting Mark Humphrys
No, I cannot agree.
We cannot support European fascists just because they are opposed to
Islamist fascists.
The BNP and other European fascists will not save Europe.
They will destroy it, as they did before.
I had a chat with Cox and Forkum about this, and they decided to remove their blogroll link to you because of your BNP support.
I hope you reconsider your position at some point.
Pro-Israel people like myself and Cox and Forkum should feel that you
are an ally.
But your support for the BNP makes that impossible.
All the best (sincerely – this is meant to be a friendly note – there
is much on your site I agree with)
Mark
(The underlining is mine. Rastaman)
Pro-Israeli my ass. None of my Israeli friends are upset with the BNP link. This is a fascistic attempt to force me to give up my Freedom of Speech by someone who comes off as pro-Islamic. I don’t think this guy gives a hoot in hell about the Jews.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
As with many extreme parties, people support it for different motives. Many are simply sick of the PC pretence, what I would call inverted racism, that migrants are a benefit no matter how unsuitable they are and join the BNP out of desperation when the other parties will not address genuine issues. Having to send their kids to classes where few speak English for example.
On the other hand it has to be said that many BNP members are pretty awful sorts whose main concern is colour. The practical problem with their stated policy of “encouraging” ethnics to leave is that the ones who would leave would be those who would most easily find a welcome elsewhere, i.e. all the best and most useful.
I certainly do not agree with censorship, not unless the “open the doors” opinion is censored too. Unfortunately the nearest our barmy society ever gets to a balanced view is a balance of extremes.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
Oi! I really don’t agree us Brits (apart from the obvious culprits) are anti-semitic. It certainly used to be true and a lot of elderly people still seem to be, but most of us learned long ago that Jews are no more of a problem than Methodists.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:06 pm
Well, maybe not, Xoggoth, unfortunately the English have a reputation for being that way, though. I guess some things die slowly. I still see the occasional anti-semitic comment on some British blogs but very guarded anymore since all the hate prosecutions. The only ones who don’t seem to get arrested for it are the muslims.
I definitely agree that Great Britain is becoming less anti-semitic. Anti-semitism isn’t a major issue there in any case and never has been, with the progroms and all that. Britain is civilized.
I try not to get into that stuff. My focus is on Islam and the threat of Islam. So when I get an email from someone who thinks he can dictate the content of my blog to suit his own political preferences, and then proceeds to send emails to other blogs attacking me when I refuse to appease his threats, he’d best remember that this is a BLOG. This is all out in public, and what goes around comes around.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:05 pm
I am in full agreement with you and everything that you stand for, Rastaman. We must stop the dangerous Islamists before they find the sacred crystal of Karnaak!!! They must be stopped. We all know that should they ever find the mythical stone it will spell certain doom for us all, just as Whitey W. Whiterton III had prophecised in the book of Click Click Ribbit, circa 100B.C. We must teach the world of the Islamists ability to see clearly in the dark for up to 2 miles as well as their powers of levitation and mild telekenesis.
Amen,
You foolish, pathetic sack of shit.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Pretty odd coming from someone who blogs on the dangers of Islam himself. I wonder if you bothered to read anything here, at all, or is this just some thoughtless knee-jerk reaction? Here you are laughing at the Islamists and cursing at me, yet you post stuff like this:
“Do you want to die? Do you want your children to be attacked while they sleep by Islamo-facist-terrero-terrorists of terror? The Democrats however want to gay-marry Osama Bin Laden at a flag-burning, inter-racial godless ceremony taking place in front of an abortion clinic where they plan on resurrecting Adolf Hitler to act as best man. So vote Republican.”
That’s sure to swing a lot of votes. Man, you’re a loon.
You make no sense at all. I think you get bored and go looking for blogs to spit on without caring what they’re even about. You need a job.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:14 am
It’s obvious that you support Israel. I don’t get this guy’s problem. Pretty bold of him. I will link to this and suggest folks come over and read it. Forewarned is good.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:38 am
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October 25th, 2006 at 10:41 am
That guy is aware that the BNP have jews in the party including a jewish councillor? What about the fact that they have columnists that support Israel?
How can they be anti-jewish?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:56 am
Rastaman, you have balls of steel, well done for refusing to back down to that Irish twat. Cox and Forkum may have removed your link but it will now be included in my blog roll at bfbwwiii.blogspot.com
I have supported the BNP for many years and can honestly say I do not have an anti-semitic bone in my body, as is evidenced from the content of my blog. I suspect that ‘Irish’ is himself consumed with hatred of Britain, and particularly the English, which is why he attacks the BNP who are the ONLY party standing up for the good people of Britain.
Ignore the twat!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:34 am
It would be interesting to know if “Irish” was pro IRA during the troubles as this would explain his dislike of the BNP who consistantly opposed the IRA despite them being fellow nationalists.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:27 pm
My acting as a loon is —-deleted—–
I let one go by but never two. This is not a place for the mentally disaffected to make personal attacks on me.
Rastaman
October 25th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
Before anyone jumps to too many conclusions about that Irish twat and his “pro IRA, anti-Brit/English, pro-Islamic, don’t-give-a-hoot-about-Jews” sentiments, I would strongly suggest you visit his own site
here.
The scales will fall from your eyes.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
I did, and read what he had to say about me and those who support my views, and he still comes off as a self-righteous, arrogant crackpot. But read it for yourself if you need any further proof.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
Mark Humphrys is a Labour supporter:
http://markhumphrys.com/vote.html#uk
I think this says it all, I’m afraid …
October 25th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
Just checked out the link to this guys site, with the usual ‘extremist’ tag.
As a working class man who has voted labour for 20yrs and helped bring about this nightmare self destructive scenario of ethnic cleansing and islamification we now see in Britain.
Its only correct he should be calling me an exremist!
Just hope for my countries sake the BNP can now get us out of all this extremist shit I have been involved in.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Rastaman, you should have a few new inbound links now. I’m not going to e-mail the guy though as I’m thinking along the lines of “don’t feed the animals”, but this might be better anyway. As a result of him trying to stifle your voice, more people will hear what you have to say than before.
Of course its tempting to e-mail him to let him know, but i like the idea of knowing that the lefty thinks he has changed the world in his favour, when all he has done is open yet more people’s eyes to the truth.
The law of unintended consequences! or should that be murphys law, LOL.
I think the only reason to e-mail him would be if we think it would give him pause for thought, but i shouldnt think thats likely.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Hello Rastiman (cause it sounds cute)
That Irish fellow is definitely pro IRA! And is a commie! I’m half Irish/Catholic and an eighth Jewish and will support the BNP as they are the only party that speaks the truth of what is really going on. My Grandfather was original IRA and died in 1937 and I think if he were alive today, he would want EIRE to join BNP, to fight this now global disease, Islam.
This Irish fella seems as oldskool himself as how he describes oldskool BNP, national front nazis, which it once was! And obviously, some of the oldskool BNP that are detrimental to the party are still knocking about but there are nice, fairly normal people like BNP member and me now floating about!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:31 pm
Hey rastaman, i just came accross this at his site..
http://markhumphrys.com/feedback.html
“Complaints / Right to reply
If I discuss you specifically, I offer an arbitrary-length right to reply, which I will undertake to display unedited on my website indefinitely, at the same page where I discuss you, so everyone who sees the page from now on can see your response. If you want to put the reply on another website, I will undertake to link to it prominently from my page. To contact me about this, make sure the above URL displays your email address. ”
Make of that what you want.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:34 pm
Hmmm. Had a quick look. No idea really, although – “Political writers I like” including Tony Blair and George Bush was enough to put me off I’m afraid.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:54 pm
Wow!!! Thanks to all of you! Mr. Bryant, you likewise deserve a link on this site, which I’ll be attending to shortly, as well as checking out the other comments to see if there’s any other blogs that I’ve missed.
I had a really strong hunch from the git-go that this guy was Pro-Labor, I even told Allan Forkum (Cox & Forkum) so.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of one blogger trying to censor another blogger, and I got to be the guinea pig. I hope he understands that the experiment has failed.
Thank you, all of you, for your support.
October 26th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
Hmmm,
Interesting different approaches to the same criticisms (I think mostly valid ones) of the nature of the BNP. I just said I wouldnt vote for them because I think their racist and (if I’m honest about my chief priority) anti-semitic element is too ingrained to be removed – and my point was rather proved by a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi nutball (and BNP supporter) posting reams of claptrap about ‘Jewish assaults on Britain’.
That said, I didnt dream of suggesting that merely supporting them or linking them makes anyone’s site a ‘Hate Site’ – hell I’ve linked to them whenever I’ve felt they were saying something worthwhile, same as I’ve attacked them when I felt they were saying something offensive. And as one or two of the commenters here already know, questioning MY pro-Israeli credentials is like saying the sea aint really wet.
What a silly boy this Humphrys chap is.
PS And Rastaman I think if you check out his site a bit more you’ll see that Hooligan32 above is actually a Leftie taking the piss, if you hadnt realised that already.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:58 am
The difference between you and Humphrys, rastaman, is that you are a rascist. He’s a rational man with genuine concern for all people in the world, where as you are a hater of all things different.
Don’t be so stubborn as to continue arguing that he’s a crackpot, you know he was right from the start.
November 1st, 2006 at 1:48 am
His real name wouldn’t be Jesus Christ, would it? And yours is Paul? That still leaves eleven more……
November 1st, 2006 at 11:02 am
Humphreys and worzel…perhaps you might like to shut us all up by going to the BNP website and finding a ‘racist’ article to post here. I’ve been visiting the site every day for over three years and haven’t come across anything remotely racist, unless standing up for your own people is racist.
And worzel, just because you call soomeone racist doesn’t make them racist…it makes you a name-calling PRAT. As for the ‘genuine concern for all people in the world’, does that extend to those of us you’ve branded “RACIST” or just those who share your self-righteous views?
Silly me, I already know the answer to that!
November 9th, 2006 at 2:21 am
Bryant, as you’re not averse to slinging childish names around, I’ll have a go myself: you’re a typical, insular, English gimp. Take one look at Humphrys’ site and tell me if any of what you’ve written about him could possibly be true.
I am 100% opposed to Islamism, but I find the neanderthals of the BNP (and their various equivalents in other countries) almost as disagreeable. If ever a group of people were in need of more brain cells, then surely the BNP and its supporters are them. These mentally deficient arseholes give a bad name to anyone who speaks out against Islamism.
Read before you write, English.